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Osho on Ram Dass and Vishnu Devananda
Osho - Just the other day somebody wrote me a question about
one of the disciples of Shivananda. He is well known in America, in
Europe -- Vishnu Devananda is his name. Up to now he has been claiming
that he goes on receiving messages from his late Master, Shivananda.
Only recently he has confessed that somebody in his own organization was
deceiving him, giving him messages as if they were coming from the late
Master, Shivananda.
In the first place Shivananda was not a Master at all; he was only a
teacher and a very ordinary teacher, a third-rate teacher. He was
talking old rubbish. But a man like Vishnu Devananda who is worshipped
by thousands of people in Europe and America -- particularly in Spanish
countries he has a great following -- he can be deceived by someone in
his own organization. Somebody was playing tricks on him. And these
tricks are not new.
Madame Blavatsky used to play the same trick upon the Theosophists, and
great Theosophists like Colonel Olcott and others were deceived. It was
found out only later on that she had managed it through a servant; a
servant used to hide on the roof. Just think... the roof of Buddha Hall
and a sannyasin hiding there, and in the middle of the discourse a
letter drops! And Madame Blavatsky used to claim that these letters had
come from divine Masters, particularly from Master K. H., Kuthumi, who
is the head of all the Masters, who is a direct mediator between God and
the earth. Only later on did the servant confess before the court that
he was hiding on the roof where there was a small place from which to
drop the letters, and those letters were written by Madame Blavatsky
herself. And then the experts on writing found out that that was true --
all the letters were written by Blavatsky herself.
Now somebody in Vishnu Devananda's own organization has been deceiving
him for years. But these are the foolish people...
One of the very famous Americans, Baba Ram Dass, was deceived for one
year continuously by a woman who said that she was delivering messages
from Ram Dass's late Master, Neem Karoli Baba. And the messages were not
just ordinary messages -- tantric messages, "The Master has said make
love to me!" So Baba Ram Dass was making love to the woman, and for one
year continuously it went on. It seems people want to be fooled!
There are people who want to befool, there are people who are ready to
be befooled. This world is full of such people, and they have been
thought religious, esoteric, occult -- all kinds of beautiful names have
been given to these fools.
It is good that Vishnu Devananda has confessed that somebody in his own
organization was deceiving him, but what does it show? It shows one
thing: that Vishnu Devananda is a fool. If somebody in his own
organization, his own disciple can deceive him, then what integrity has
he got and what consciousness? He should drop being a Master, he should
stop initiating people. He has lost all right to.
In the name of religion so much stupidity has happened in the world that
if religion disappears as it is, man will be immensely benefited.
Just the other day I was reading that in Arabian countries at least one
thousand women are killed every day, for SMALL things; just the
suspicion is enough. If the husband suspects that the wife is having
some relationship with somebody -- and can you find a husband who does
not suspect, or can you find a wife who does not suspect? -- then that
is enough reason to kill the woman. And Islamic law allows it; it is not
murder. You are killing your own woman, your own wife -- it is like
destroying your own chair! Who can prevent you? It is your own chair.
You can burn your bicycle -- so you have burnt another menstrual cycle!
So what is wrong with it? Thousands of women are killed every day, in
the twentieth century, in the name of Islamic law. We have not really
evolved; we are still as primitive as we have ever been.
Source - Osho Book "Theologia Mystica" |